• @clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world
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      He would only escape if he was a presidential candidate or a multi billionaire.

      Since he is neither and he works on US soil, then the law came after him. You would cave in, if in similar circumstances.

    • @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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      I already explained my point about it. A lot of companies rebased themselves when political issues occured. The Linux Foundation could easily do that. It’s just racism.

      • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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        “A lot of companies” completely left the sphere of influence of basically any country except Russia? Doubt.

        I know the company i work for has to take similar steps when the sanctions went into effect, for example. Same as almost everyone.

      • @Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works
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        Counter argument: The maintainers could “easily” relocate to a country that is not currently conducting an invasion to enlarge its territory.

      • @Hemuphone@lemmy.world
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        Sanctions against a country/nation that is attacking another sovereign nation are not “racist”. Russia could easily stop their war to start getting rid of the sanctions.

        • @Mihies@programming.dev
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          It depends, though. There are western and other countries invading and much worse, but there are no sanctions. It could be racism, interests or both that only a certain country is targeted with sanctions.

          • @Hemuphone@lemmy.world
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            There should be sanctions on every country invading. Its not rocket science. It’s crazy to say that russia is being sanctioned for racist reasons. They are literally attacking an European nation. Makes sense that other European countries sanction them, no?

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              Yes, there should be sanctions against any country doing that and worse. But there aren’t. Why not? I see a lot of downvotes and no explanations. As per Europe, aren’t we talking mostly about US, since Linux is trying to follow their sanctions? Also even Europe is divided about who the enemy is, like pesky Hungary.

          • @Hemuphone@lemmy.world
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            So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where? Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

            Why would they relocate? To keep a few Russian maintainers? Because not relocating is “racist”? Not sure what you mean, just trying to guess.

            • @bastion@feddit.nl
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              Sorry that was such a bad argument that I did not even consider it being one.

              Savage truth.

            • @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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              So your argument is that Linux foundation should relocate to… where?

              Somewhere stable and neutral like Switzerland or some island. I’m not a lawyer so can’t say which country is the best for it.

              Because not relocating is “racist”?

              To some extent, yes.

              • @winterayars@sh.itjust.works
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                Switzerland is currently sanctioning Russia. Let me say that again to be clear: moving to Switzerland, the most neutral country in the world, will not prevent you from having to abide by sanctions against Russia.

              • @Tattorack@lemmy.world
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                “Russian” is not a race. And Finland has a history with Russia that isn’t easily forgotten. That is to say, every Finn I’ve spoken to hates Russia for invading Finland… Twice…

                Finland isn’t even the only neighbour that hates Russia. At some point one has to wonder why so many of Russia’s neighbours hate, or at the very least don’t feel comfortable with, Russia.

                Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

                • @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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                  “Russian” is not a race.

                  That’s true but nowadays the word “racism” is used as a full synonym to “discrimination”.

                  Maybe, just maybe, the reason why everyone is having issues with Russia is Russia’s own damn fault.

                  A person who thinks that the terms “Russia” and “a Russian citizen” are the same is hopeless and must be eliminated at all costs.

                  • @Tattorack@lemmy.world
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                    No, let’s not degrade language like that.

                    And “eliminated at all costs”? Sounds exactly the kind of thinking that leads to getting shut out and cut ties. Good riddance.

                  • @Hemuphone@lemmy.world
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                    It’s ok to discriminate against a nation for waging war. Should be done to any nation. Including Israel, etc.

      • @uis@lemm.ee
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        …it’s not. It is stupid, it stalls mainlining of Baikal, but it is not a racism.

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          Do they? They could have just isolated those commits as sanctioned and added a warning. Linux hates Russians as a Finn, so didn’t need much convincing to remove them.

          I would be singing a different tune if our allies invading other countries at the moment were also sanctioned, but that’s not the case.

          As it stands, let the individuals escape the nation state punishment. They didn’t start this war, and likely don’t support it.

          • @Mereo@lemmy.ca
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            Rationally speaking, the whole purpose of sanctions is to sanction the whole population of the country in order to get the government of the country to change it’s policies. And when it comes to sanctions, companies and entities doing business with the sanctioned countries are themselves sanctioned. So Linus had no choice but to remove the Russian contributors.

            We’re talking about a real situation, not about what would be better.

            • @___@lemm.ee
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              Of course that’s how sanctions work… against nations. Linux isn’t a country, it’s not an American asset. They could have resisted. Linus chose not to.

      • @BCsven@lemmy.ca
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        They are bound by USA sanction law, moving to another NATO country would be same sanctions against Russia

          • @bastion@feddit.nl
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            So your advice is basically “come on, guys, you can resist russian aggression in ways that don’t involve conflict, stop the sanctions and side with Russia pls”?

            No. As the instigator of this conflict, Russia can back the fuck down.

            • @GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml
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              At this point I’m sure you’re just trolling. I fully support sanctions against Russia but not against Russian people unless they were officially proven to actively support the war, especially if their actions don’t result in income to Russian Federation in taxes. I think I made it clear.

              Also Linus supports US’s terroristic acts and invasions by paying taxes to the country so it’s not necessarily any better.