Examples could be things like specific configuration defaults or general decision-making in leadership.

What would you change?

  • @GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml
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    4510 months ago

    Desktop environment should be separated from the OS. You should be able to change the de easily. Maybe in a container.

    Present the user with common software when installing the os. Ask the user if she wants to install any of it (as a flatpak).

    Ask for prioprietary codecs and install them if wanted.

    • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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      1710 months ago

      It is. I don’t know what you’re talking about. You can go ahead and apt-get xfce on Linux Mint right now. Back in 1998, I had Window Maker, Gnome and some other windows 95 inspired DE all installed in my Conectiva Linux. It was always possible.

      • pbjamm
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        410 months ago

        I frequently do this to try out different DEs. My only issue with it is that if the DE has its own version of some package like a music player I end up with a cluttered menu with all version from all installed DEs. Would be nice if there were an easy way to limit each DE to its app list by default.

        • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          210 months ago

          By default is a tall order. Most people want to have full access to their software library. But a GUI tool to edit the menu for a specific DE for a specific user…that would be nice.

      • Josh
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        -710 months ago

        Installing KDE Plasma on a Gnome installation breaks so much shit it’s not funny, but most of this seems to be a problem with the command line because doing it with YAST seems to prevent things from breaking.

        • Bo7a
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          810 months ago

          I don’t get this. It is a common statement on lemmy especially among the new users. I have been daily-driving linux for many many years, and every install of a new distro gets 3 or 4 DEs added to play around with and find the ‘flavour of the year’ for myself.

          I don’t recall this ever being a real problem. Ever.

          • @ikidd@lemmy.world
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            510 months ago

            Been using Linux for 25 years, and I remember some of this from init script years, but it’s been a long, long time since it’s been an issue in any half-way decent distro.

            • Bo7a
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              310 months ago

              Roughly the same here. And yeah this hasn’t been a problem since the very first years. And even then it was just some config tweaks.

              • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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                210 months ago

                I started with Conectiva in the nineties. Back on Gnome 1, fvwm, etc. Never experienced that. The opposite, it was always possible to run programs from one toolkit in another. The only issue was the aesthetic clash.

        • @acockworkorange@mander.xyz
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          210 months ago

          I haven’t installed KDE in a long time. But installing both Gnome and Window Maker next to Mint’s Cinnamon was absolutely breezy.

    • @z00s@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      Present the user with common software

      Manjaro does this with word processing software but I wish it did it with more stuff. It would be nice to not have to uninstall a bunch of apps and install my preferred ones as the first step after a fresh install

    • @bia@lemmy.world
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      810 months ago

      I’ve done this with debian in the past, you just install different DE in parallel. Works well enough, don’t remember it causing any issues. It just makes a mess of your home folder, so I don’t do it outside of testing purposes.

    • @Petter1@lemm.ee
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      510 months ago

      I guess with immutable linux distros, it would be possible, as fat as I understand.