stolen from linux memes at Deltachat

  • Skull giver
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    541 year ago

    The Arch wiki is great, but Arch is a terrible platform for newbies, unless they go into Linux with the intent to do a deep dive into the structure behind a Linux OS.

    • Christian
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      141 year ago

      I switched like ten years ago because I wanted to learn the details, but in all honesty I still feel like I barely understand anything. Not sure how normal this is, maybe I’m unusually dumb, but I feel like what I’ve really learned is how to troubleshoot and solve issues by reading documentation and tinkering, rather than understanding what I’m actually doing. I’ve had a stable system for years but I kind of feel like if a typical arch forum poster looked my system configuration for five minutes they’d be like wtf are you doing.

      • @stevar@lemmy.world
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        61 year ago

        If you know where to look and where to tinker, then I think you have at least some understanding of what you’re doing.

      • Skull giver
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        31 year ago

        Knowing you don’t know everything is what makes you smart. Arch helps keep people smart by forcing them to be on edge all the time by feeding everyone the most recent, often not very well-tested versions of software. All the shiny new tech, with some of the sharp edges that still need to be sanded down.

        Every time you learn how to configure a tool or daemon or subsystem, a new, shinier tool comes out, or there’s a major update, or you discover an approach that works better for you. The Linux landscape is constantly shifting. You can bite down and stick with what you know (CentOS and derivatives are great for that!) or you can stay along for the ride.

        Weird shitty configs is the Arch Linux life. The flexibility is what allows you to configure your system in whatever way works for you, and until it inevitably all explodes with some future update, it’s probably best not to touch anything and break your config because there’s a “better” way. Unless you like that stuff, of course.

    • @sederx@programming.dev
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      1 year ago

      Is actually great since it forces you to learn which saves you much more time in the long run.

      But most people can’t see past their nose.

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      Can’t believe somebody got offended by this…

      • TwinTusks
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        131 year ago

        Is actually great since it forces you to learn which saves you much more time in the long run.

        It is great when you have time to learn, but when you are trying to troubleshoot while understand basically nothing of the wiki … it is not good.

      • Skull giver
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        91 year ago

        Most people want a functional OS, they don’t care about the benefits of NetworkManager over its competition. Figuring out every possible configuration setting and finding the right combination to get everything working as intended takes forever.

        Some people are into that, and power to them, but most people aren’t.