• @Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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    214 days ago

    It isn’t an “answer” to anything, it is necessary for a feeling of safety and togetherness in certain vulnerable people at certain times. You must get past the fact that you weren’t invited and accept that this is good for some of us. Give in a little, and take in so much more in the long run

    • @nomy@lemmy.zip
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      514 days ago

      Hard to be an ally when you’re excluded. Hard to even want to be an ally when you’re told you’re part of the problem.

        • @nomy@lemmy.zip
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          114 days ago

          I think you as a father could probably learn a lot from mothers, so yeah it’s kind of fucked up to be excluded.

            • @nomy@lemmy.zip
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              -414 days ago

              Why assume you have something to offer them when the opposite is likely truer.

                • @qarbone@lemmy.world
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                  014 days ago

                  Idk if even they have understood the position they’re taking.

                  Their “Why should I be barred from taking advantage of anything that might benefit me?”

                  vs

                  Your “I am have nothing to give and no way to meaningfully help, so I’ll stay out.”

                  Is very telling.

      • @Hadriscus@lemm.ee
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        114 days ago

        You’re not excluded, you’re just not included. You’re not meant to be part of everything in society, that doesn’t make you an enemy. Try getting over it and being an ally regardless

        • @nomy@lemmy.zip
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          214 days ago

          I’m doing my thing and preparing, Ive got a nice little circle around me. Unfortunately a lot of people are hung up on identity politics instead of actually organizing and putting in work.

          I’m an accomplice, not an ally. Too bad too many people are stuck on themselves to figure it out.

      • Rob T Firefly
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        13 days ago

        It’s terribly easy to be an ally when you’re excluded. Helping people to have the space and community they need can be an incredible act of allyship, even (perhaps especially) when that space and community is not also for you.