It appears that in every thread about this event there is someone calling everyone else in the thread sick and twisted for not proclaiming that all lives are sacred and being for the death of one individual.

It really is a real life trolley problem because those individuals are not seeing the deaths caused by the insurance industry and not realizing that sitting back and doing nothing (i.e. not pulling the lever on the train track switch) doesn’t save lives…people are going to continue to die if nothing is done.

Taking a moral high ground and stating that all lives matter is still going to costs lives and instead of it being a few CEOs it will be thousands.

  • Norah (pup/it/she)
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    234 months ago

    I think you’re getting this kind of backwards. Individual claims aren’t denied under universal healthcare. It’s not opaque like a private insurer. Specific procedures are the thing not covered, and that becomes part of a national legislative/policy discussion.

    • bluGill
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      -24 months ago

      What is the difference if you need a treatment you cannot get

      • Norah (pup/it/she)
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        64 months ago

        The fact that the system is transparent, that every one is denied in a way that is public knowledge, makes the system much easier to change. It’s not directly comparable to the opaque way that US insurance companies deny claims, and the way you said “often have ways” implies the same level of subterfuge.

        I feel like you also missed the other commenter’s point entirely. No one makes comparisons on raw numbers, that would be silly. But the rate at which UHC denies claims is likely greater.

        • bluGill
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          04 months ago

          Rate is just one data point. I’m back again to asking for in depth analysis. Do people who use UHC submit more bogus claims than those who use other insurance for example? There are many more important questions that need to be asked.

          • Norah (pup/it/she)
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            14 months ago

            Holy moly, are you really this much of a bootlicker that you buy “bogus claims” as an excuse for insurance denying people life-saving treatment?

            You’re right, rate is just one data point. One I think you purposefully ignored now.

            • bluGill
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              -14 months ago

              I’ve been around long enough to know that people who want to make a point will yell about one number in their favor and ignore everything else.