“hyah hyah hyah. Molly my dear, come look at the poors with me! What a riot, look at how hot they are!”
If Gilligan’s island were real, they’d have eaten Thurston Howell first. Just sayin’.
do NOT let them sleep in their car, there’s a real risk they could die if from asphyxiation. Here in Mexico there were blackouts from the record heat and there was a family who slept in their car for the ac. They unfortunately all died
You just got OP rock hard.
Yep, there’s been a few cases of it happening at festivals like Bonnaroo, also.
Assuming they’re sleeping in the car with the AC running, my car never seems to let me keep it on recirculation for more than like 10 minutes. I noticed this while I was driving through a bunch of forest fire smoke I was trying to keep out, and I had to keep turning it back on.
Maybe that’s just a safety feature my car has, but not all cars? Or am I misunderstanding and it’s an issue with exhaust fumes? That would definitely be an issue in a garage.
For my car I have to pump the air all the way down to cold for recirculation to stay on.
That’s really sad to hear. Luckily the power wasn’t out for too long here.
You might try to not be an asshole to them and invite them in. You’d probably be able to get them more on biased with solar. But then you’d have to give up the opportunity to be a snarky troll.
It’s also nice to be on good terms with your neighbors, you never know when you could use their help or what they might offer you I’m the future. My neighbors wife asked for a cup of flour and we gave her an extra bag. Next day my wife is outside and they hand her an ounce of weed… what a trade
I had to stop smoking weed for medical brain damage reasons, and ended up gifting 4 grams of concentrate and all my glassware to a cool neighbor.
Multiple hundred dollar bongs and a $300 Opal set in a dab rig.
Back on opiates for pain, but he was a cool kilt wearing bastard.
I would not want any of my neighbors up in my house.
Soon as I see the ‘literally’ I usually predict how it’s going to go.
Lol this thread. So many entitled people out there.
Okay so just to be clear.
You are in an extreme heat wave. There is no power. You see your neighbors struggling due to the heat. You have the ability to invite them over cool down. Doing so would cost virtually $0.
You instead post a meme on lemmy making fun of them.
Even if you don’t get along with them, doing something like this would be a huge way to mend fences.
EDIT:
So I the Houston Chronicle has a Texas power outage tracker. According to them, there are like 2k customers without power in the entire state.
Also, Texas doesn’t have power outages related to grid capacity in the summer that often. The major power outages this year were caused by storms knocking down lines. The huge one a couple of years ago was related to cold weather.
While the Texas grid does have issues related heat waves, it’s not alone in that regard. Basically every southwestern state does, including California. Someone in Texas would probably know this and understand it’s ridiculous to act like this problem is unique to Texas.
So I this entire thing, like everything these days, is made up to push a narrative.
LMAO alright Texas, we all believe you. We’ll send you federal aid next time your shitty power grid goes out and people start freezing to death in their homes.
While the Texas grid does have issues related heat waves, it’s not alone in that regard. Basically every southwestern state does, including California.
There are stark differences between 49 other states and Texas.
- Texas power grid has been systematically gutted
- regulation and inspections are defunded, as Texas refuses the inspections required to join the nations power exchange as a peer.
And the big one
- now they’re not exchanging power, they have to buy from their rich constituents, at a premium, and they gut the bank accounts of your tax money
They’re set up for failure and occasionally they succeed.
Ask them how they feel about climate change first!
“Hey neighbor. I’ll totally help you out during this heat wave, but only if you have the same political opinions as me. You’d better make that apparent quick, because your gas tank will only last for so long”.
On some level you have to realize that’s a toxic attitude, right?
Climate change is not a “political opinion” it is a fact
So what you’re saying is that it’s okay to let your neighbors struggle during a heatwave if they aren’t well educated?
No that is not what I’m saying, I’m just saying cliychange is a fact not an opinion
If you actually believe in trying to help combat climate change, you’d get them out of their car just so they’d stop burning gasoline.
As soon as there’s a good Lemmy mobile client I’m gonna hop of the main instances. It already has most of the toxic aspects of reddit.
Have you tried Jerboa? I’m using it right now and it’s excellent.
You’re the one being toxic here. You know that, right?
They think climate change is a political topic, so…probably not.
Well at some point we need to stop letting people believe that climate change denial is a reasonable stance to have. Letting folks stew in the consequences of their choices is effective.
Being friendly is far more effective than trying to punish people to make them agree with you. Especially when there’s no immediate and obvious consequence of their individual actions.
Of course you’re right. It’s best to continue being friendly until they’d literally die outside and wouldn’t need persuading.
So you know the state of the power of my house better than me? Want me to send the logs of my solar app that keeps track of my outages?
My power was out yesterday while it was 103°F. I’m sorry it wasn’t published on the internet.
Okay so your either lying or you laughed as your neighbors desperately attempted to escape dangerous temperatures.
Neither of those possibilities made you look good.
Oh no! People on the internet don’t think I look good! How will I ever recover!?
Not lying about the power outage. It wasn’t out long enough for anyone to actually be in danger, just slightly uncomfortable. No one was desperate, just wanted to be a little more comfortable in their cars.
You’re just being a toxic asshole that wants to find something wrong with everything, so you are making assumptions about a situation you don’t fully understand and jumping to conclusions like it’s some sort of Olympic sport.
Okay so you watched your neighbors struggle in the heat and thought it was funny.
You are a toxic asshole to people in real life.
Lmao, for a couple of minutes. They were fine. I promise. No one was dying in the streets or anything.
You are a toxic asshole to people in real life.
The irony is delicious.
So I this entire thing, like everything these days, is made up to push a narrative.
But you’re the one who brought up Texas and laid out the narrative that their isolated grid doesn’t have any issues that the rest of the country doesn’t have as well. Who’s pushing the narrative here?
I assumed it’s the one who used the phrase “these days” regarding a social issue like it’s unique to now.
Not everyone can afford the installation costs.
Me living in a state that doesn’t have rolling blackouts…
Me living where it’s 60-75 all year.
What country is that?
California central coast
Portugal central coast is similar.
Damn, I didn’t realize it has gotten that bad in Portugal, that’s awful.
Bad? What do you mean?
I see now I misunderstood. I though they meant over 60 blackouts all year.
I freaking live in the desert so i know I’d have solar 16h a day for like 9 months but i also know that solar panels optimal temp is 25°. In here, it’s a least 35, almost always above 40, often 45++ in the summer. Heck, there’s days and days of consecutive 49° and somehow never reach 50° making me believe that if it reach 50° the government is required by international laws to not allow citizens out or something.
Wow that’s a lot colder than i expected, i always thought solar panels worked best around 70° or so
Celcius :P
Ah americans…
In your defense, the commenter should have specified that it was Celsius.
Why though? Americans rarely do the opposite, and it was kinda obvious because if the optimal temp of solar panels were 25F, that translates to - 3.5°C, and that’s obviously wrong.
With the solar panel context, it’s obvious that we are talking in Celsius.
That temp doesn’t keep them from working though, they will still produce a lot of power in that much sun. It’s entirely worth it to have them if you can afford to.
doesn’t it degrade their capacity too much ? I thought at such temps they be like -80% capacity or something. 25m² at 400w would shrink my electric bill by a lot.
I don’t really know, but I live where it’s hot as fuck and mine work fine
Thanks man.
Fuck you OP
Where I am you can collect a bounty for reporting people who idle cars like this. It’s a massive contributor to smog.
This is one of the huge overlooked advantages of electric cars, provided that the manufacturer added the feature (it’s insane that some don’t) you can straight up power your house for DAYS on the car battery.
I don’t think you can power a home air conditioner for days on a teslas battery bank. It’s the most energy draining system by far.
if we assume the lowest capacity tesla model S and a beefy AC that consumes 5 kWh/h, that’s still 15 hours of non-stop balls to the wall AC usage.
Also, provided that you live close enough to a charger that is functonal, you have the ability to drive there, charge your car, and use the energy at home. That’s probably less efficient and definitely more of a hassle than just having a backup generator and some dunks of fuel, but hey it’s nice to have extra options.
5 kWh/h That’s just 5 kW :)
Buy a spare ac and extension cord and run it in the front lawn just to mess with em!
Yikes…
Battery backup likely last 2 hours on AC. Good luck with that.
WOW you can tell wich model and what type of solar panels he’s using. You can even predict the amount of sun his’ house is receiving and at what angle.
You must be a genius!!!(or the opposite)
I installed 5kwh grid feed on my house and professionally have installed enough systems for communications towers to know the requirements. So ya I take it with a grain of salt when people suggest they can get any significant time from a battery backup system.
Also 99 percent of the home systems are grid tie and do not have a ‘whole house’ battery backup. Thus I am suspicious to begin when they say they get these long battery backup times and hands their AC tired in. And to make me more suspicious, nearly all grid tie systems shut completely down if the grid fails even if your in full sunlight. This is for safety reasons. A few people might have power wall type of systems but for ten thousand your only getting a few hours out of that and only on specific circuits in your house. Something that requires a bit of complexity in your electrical panel wiring.
And before you all find the 1 percent of systems that are fully backed up with battery, and they do exist, these systems to be viable have to be so overbuilt that they can cost hundred thousand dollars.
Mine lasts about 8 hours with AC on constantly if there was no sun. This was during the day, so the battery was charging faster than it was discharging. If the power goes out at night, I just turn up the thermostat so the AC is only on some of the time, and it will last long enough for the sun to come back up.
What is the size of your battery pack and model of you know. Also what is the size of your AC unit? What you pay for the battery pack alone?
I have a 5kwh grid feed system on one of my houses and install solar for remote locations that power low watt towers.
I have two batteries that were 13.5kWh each. The cost was exorbitant, but I live in an area that loses power extremely often (rural), so it was worth the investment, imo. Plus, it increases the value of the house, so I’ll make it back eventually.
My solar panels provide 6kW.
My whole house with the AC running uses about 4kW. Without the AC running, my house uses about 0.5kW
So doing the math right there, I could actually run 6 hours, 45 minutes with no sun and AC full blast, so I guess I was off by a little bit. But I never run the AC full blast anyway, it always turns on and off to maintain temperature, and it runs way less at night when there’s no sun.
As I said, 99 percent are grid tied no battery. You are the one percent and I think that is an important omission on your part. Your battery pack would cost around 40,000 U$ I estimate alone. Now if you are not grid tied, your solar installation will be very inefficient and often not matching your usage/charging requirements. Thus you won’t be getting the most out of the 6kwh solar panels. Often getting very little return. If it is grid tied which provides access to store excess energy, that is the most efficient system. But if you include that battery pack and try to match best efficiency, then you need a much more complex charger/controller. Add 50 percent to that cost. I suspect your installation on nearing 100k if it is installed in such a way to take maximum advantage of the sun.
Now with the battery pack, you can utilize it to provide power at night allowing for maximum savings. But if you do this, there is no guarantee you will have any battery left for those frequent power outages you have. Thus to be reliable on battery, you must keep it at full charge at all times thus not getting any real financial returns on it. It is simply a 40,000 dollar ‘generator’ which doesn’t really make any sense both from an economical or environmental sense. The good thing is that it should last a long time if it is not discharged often. But if you operate it in daily usage, you will need to replace likely every 10 to 15 years. That is pretty expensive as well.
While simple solar panel with grid tie can be both economical and environmentally friendly, battery packs make near zero sense from a return on investment or from an environmental sense. It sounds like you are using it to protect from power failures but that means it must be at 100 percent at all times ready for power failures. And if you are doing that, just install a far cheaper generator. Not only is it far cheaper, you can have days of power failure and the environmental impact is far less then the manufacturing environmental costs of batteries.
