• Pixlbabble
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    52 years ago

    I just wouldn’t use a corporate server. This here is more like old internet before the likes of google started to buy everything and consolidate the internet. Running a single server is not the same as a server farm in multiple countries.

      • Pixlbabble
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        22 years ago

        I started on lemme.world but it’s been getting hammered so I made a backup account on lemm.ee Yes when your feed is on local is the server you are on and all is all servers. It gets weirder though because you will also see posts from defederated servers, we can still comment like normal on them too but that server itself that’s defederated the people on that server will not be communicating with the rest of the federation.

  • NutWrench
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    22 years ago

    In order to screw up Lemmy, corporations would have to take over 1300 or so Instances, scattered in different countries all over the world.

    The second they screwed up the most popular Instance(s), folks would just move to other Instances and they could defederate from the corporate ones.

  • @lingh0e@lemmy.world
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    22 years ago

    I can’t wait to be one of the “I was part of the great Reddit migration” dudes when this lemmy stuff inevitably goes tits up in 15 years.

      • pruwyben
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        So companies fucked up the internet, and people had to make a new internet inside the internet. And when companies fuck that up too, we’ll make a new internet inside that one!

  • @snor10@lemm.ee
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    12 years ago

    While I agree with the worry concerning corporations joining, I don’t really mind “normal” people joining though.

    That being said, this is an incorrect use of the meme. The text on the two bottom panels are supposed to stay the same.

    Sorry if I’m being pedantic.

      • Jee
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        12 years ago

        It honestly doesn’t seem that expensive based on others talking about their hosting costs. The bigger instance will be more expensive but they would also have a lot more people who can easily handle the cost without needing external funds. That said some instance will go that way not for the server cost but for simply money in their pocket at which point you can just switch to another instance.

        • @pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
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          It gets more expensive if you start a successful meme community with lots of data. Some big Mastodon servers already store gigabytes per hour. Even with Cloudflare the expenses can soon get pretty high.

          But yes, everything else with Lemmy is just a few euros a month.

          • I still don’t understand why they aren’t just utilizing imgur and that catbox hosting service exclusively. Plenty of image/gif hosting options.

            • @pimeys@lemmy.nauk.io
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              12 years ago

              The current default installation, especially if using Ansible, doesn’t use any commercial image hosting services. You need to go out of the golden path to do so.

              Even using an S3-compatible host is not in the default path: the files are stored to the server file system. So, yeah, maybe this is the reason. And of course, giving your content to a commercial entity is something people in the fediverse doesn’t like that much. Wasn’t the idea to get rid of these entities that can just be bought by a billionaire asshole and suddenly killing your community.

          • @xavier666@lemm.ee
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            My lemm.ee instance costs around €150-200 per month (as per our admin) which is a medium sized instance but it is extremely well maintained. But it’s certainly not 100s of millions of dollars, that’s for sure.

          • Jee
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            12 years ago

            Someone made a thread specifically for that a while ago but don’t remember where or what the name was, sorry

      • @UnelectedReimu@lemmy.ml
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        12 years ago

        maintaining servers is a lot more affordable when your website isn’t bloated with tracking and unnecessary features. It’s not realistic for a corporation to buy up a significant chunk of the fediverse anyways

  • Nora
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    12 years ago

    We have more control this time though… When the companies come, we can block them.

  • @Bongles@lemm.ee
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    12 years ago

    The neat part is they really can’t fuck it up. You can always run your own instance and defederate from a corporation causing problems. Eventually we’ll be getting the feature to block entire instances too so you won’t have to rely on your admin making that choice either.

  • @Uplink@programming.dev
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    12 years ago

    Can corporations fuck it up if they want to? Couldn’t we just migrate to a new instance and not federate? Or not federate with them from the beginning?

    • @guckfoogle@sh.itjust.works
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      42 years ago

      I’ve already seen it happen with a company creating an account to plug their meal plan site, same thing that has been happening on reddit since it started. Just don’t trust any account thats trying to sell you something.

  • drain bamage (broken ai)
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    02 years ago

    Yeah I hate how my personal site on my personal servers is always in mark zuckerbergs hands. Wait what was the question?

  • @OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
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    02 years ago

    I hate to say it, but the vibe has gotten a lot more Reddit-y over the last couple months. Lemmy used to be a lot more controversial, and not afraid to show it

    • @mino@lemmy.mlOP
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      I kind of like that tbh. I have identified as an anarchist/communist for over 25 years and even I thought the content at Lemmy was too much of a downer to be around too much.

      The point is not the content per se, the point is nobody has any other incentive than to have a good time and share. Instead of the basic human desire to be social constantly being exploited for shiny fucking coins by robots and or psychopaths.

      You pick the communities you like. Diversity is key.

      • @Caradoc879@lemmy.world
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        02 years ago

        I’m not sure if it’s brigading or if reddit was just better at hiding them, but I’m seeing a lot of alt-right, fuck-the-libs hate. Any of the current posts about the student loan forgiveness for example. So so many bad faith, tone-deaf arguments of “why should I pay for your loans” or “those lazy deadbeats just don’t want to pay”. It almost feels organzied.

        • GizmoLion
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          02 years ago

          It’s because here downvotes don’t push you to the bottom of the stack, and that needs to change. At least on Reddit you could bury the trolls.

          • @Cabrio@lemmy.world
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            -12 years ago

            Nah, don’t hide the trash, let them be a public example and berate and shame them. Ban them if they get too rowdy. Society breeds civility through cowardice, stop being afraid to tell these people what you think, don’t be offended; offence is taken not given, be offensive, berate their stupidity and ignorance, insult their lack of cognizance and competence, flex your belligerence in the face of theirs, call them on their bullshit and be fucking relentless.

            Be a dick to an asshole; save a pussy.

            • GizmoLion
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              02 years ago

              Bruh I’m just trying to scroll through interesting posts and interact with people worth having a discussion with. If you get off putting people in their place all day then feel free to sort by lowest score or whatever mechanism eventually appears.

              If you want to change someone’s mind you aren’t going to do it by putting them on the spot and belittling them for it. That just backs a person into the corner and makes them double down. The whole “I’d rather be Russian than Democrat” is perfect example of this.

              If you want to make them change their ways then just ignore their desperate pleas for attention. Kids don’t earn the right to sit at the grown up table by acting like kids, but eventually they mature and learn nuance and that earns them a seat.

              • @Cabrio@lemmy.world
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                -12 years ago

                I can’t help it if you want to contribute willingly to conversations you don’t want to be a part of, sounds fucking stupid to me,which we’ve already determined multiple times you are, and continue to prove by not being able to check your ego long enough to dissuade yourself from continuing to reply. I don’t mind if it takes you a long time to learn a lesson, no skin off my nose to educate a belligerent, I was born for this.

                • GizmoLion
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                  12 years ago

                  If you think using big words and calling people childish names is making a coherent argument then there’s really nothing to be done here…

                  I didn’t say I didn’t want to contribute willingly, I said I didn’t want to spend my time engaging trolls and unsavory individuals. I’d rather they fade into obscurity and get on about my day.

                  Go ahead and reread it if you need proof, it’s all up there.

  • @DannyMac@lemmy.world
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    02 years ago

    I hope not. I remember a time in which you needed to know something in order to enjoy the Internet and I kinda hope this place remains less approachable by normies, but attractive to those who love technology. I feel this is like how IRC was in the 90s.

    • @Boinketh@lemm.ee
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      12 years ago

      I think that Lemmy becoming more accessible to normies is a good thing. There’s no reason to gatekeep it, as it’s not the normies that mess up the site, it’s the greedy pricks that follow them and try to make a buck.